Dr Flowers continues to misunderstand and thus misrepresent the Reformed view of the wicked sinner seeking God in faith and repentance after Regeneration by the Holy Spirit.
Flowers decribes from scripture the lost wicked sinner perfectly when he quotes Romans 3:11
“..there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God.” -Romans 3:11
I can add a few more verses to that one:
Psalms 10 :4 -In the pride of his face the wicked does not seek him; all his thoughts are, “There is no God.”
Flowers just does not understand the RADICAL AND TOTAL DEPRAVITY OF THE WICKED SINNER AND THE EXCEEDING GREATNESS OF SIN AND THE TOTAL INABILITY OF THE WICKED SINNER WHO IS TOTALLY A VOLUNTARY SLAVE OF SIN AND THE LOVE AND PLEASURE THE SINNER STRONGLY HAS AN ATTACHMENT TO THE EVILNESS OF SIN.
The President illustration is just silly and does not fit into Biblical truth whatsoever.
Then Dr. Flowers says of the Reformed Faith: “Calvinists read this text to mean that our lack of initiative somehow proves our inability to respond positively to His initiative.”
This is just a mischaracterization of what the Reformed Faith believes. In Romans 3:11 the Reformed Faith believes the wicked evil sinner will not seek God apart from being regeneration of the Holy Spirit and gifts of faith and repentance produced in their hearts. WE BELIEVE NOTHING OF THE SORTS THAT OUR LACK OF INITIATIVE SOMEHOW PROVES OUR INABILITY TO RESPOND TO HIS INITIATIVE.
Then Flowers says: “They presume that God’s work in sending His Son, the Holy Spirit, and the inspired gospel, calling for all to be reconciled through faith in Christ, is insufficient to enable the lost to respond in faith. But the text simply never says this.”
Its as if Flowers is trying to confuse by making false statements the the Reformed Faith does not even believe. The Calvinist (just a nickname) does believe that God the Father sent His God the Son to die on the Cross of those elected to Salvation from all eternity, once the elect are saved in time the God the Holy Spirit applies Christ atonement to them. BUT IN NO WAY DO WE BELIEVE REGENERATION OR EFFECTUAL CALLING IS FOR ALL (AS FLOWERS PUTS IT) BUT WE DO BELIEVE THE WORK OF THE TRINITY HAS MADE SALVATION ACTUAL AND A REALITY FOR ALL CHRIST DIED FOR ON THE CROSS.
THE TEXT JUST NEVER SAYS WHAT FLOWERS WANTS IT TO SAY WITHOUT READING INTO IT???????
The next statement Flowers makes is to untrue about the Reformed faith I have to believe he is trying to confuse and maybe being a little disingenuous.
He says and I quote: “Calvinists seem to think that because mankind is unable to attain righteousness by means of the law that they must equally be unable to obtain righteousness by means of grace through faith in Christ. This, however, is never established anywhere in the pages of Scripture.”
Of Course the Calvinists believes the sinner can obtain righteousness by the means of grace through the regenerating powering of the Holy Spirit and in faith embrace Christ as their righteousness!!!!!!!!!
Another false statement and misrepresentation of the Calvinist by Dr Flowers: “Calvinists wrongly assume that because mankind is unable to fully keep the demands of the law that they are equally unable to admit their inability to keep those demands and trust in the One who has.”
Once again I bring you Flowers back to John 3:20 to show you the wicked sinners Total Depravity, Total Inability and the fact He will not admit to it apart from a miracles working of God’s Holy Spirit.
John 3:20 – Everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come into the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.
These are sinners that Flowers who almost sounds Palagin says can seek God at any time. We read these wicked evil sinners hate the light of Christ, and do not come to the light of Christ, (definitely not seeking God), lest their deeds be exposed (and not admitting their inability because of the love and pleasure they have in sin and the hatred and hostility toward a righteous and holy God.
It all boils down to this, whatever is not of faith is sin!!!!
Romans 14:23 -But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
And those who seek God must seek him in faith because without faith it is impossible to please God.
Hebrews 11:6 – And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
You see Flowers God rewards those who seek Him in faith diligently because those who are still in the flesh can do nothing to please God and in fact their minds are hostile and hatred toward God and let’s not forget John 2:20 Above
Romans 8:7 – For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot.
Romans 8:8 – Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
The description above in Romans 8:7-8 is emphatically and definitely not a picture of wicked sinners seeking God but of wicked evil sinners being hostile and having hatred toward and complete and total inability to keep the law of God and a complete inability to do anything to please God apart from a miracles work of the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit enabling them to seek God in faith and repentance.
1 Corinthians 1:3o –It is because of him (GOD) that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God–that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.